Shirley's New Church
Gary, did you mean in your last sentence "He will leave any person under complete rejection of God's truth or God's existence"? (something got wrong with your fingers and the keyboard, and just want to understand exactly what you believe here).
I appreciated your thought re the Holy Spirit: "it is with his help that we see the need to repent and convert". Good point. Both John the Baptist and Jesus said "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is here". Sort of, repent - because the kingdom of heaven has come. Not the other way around. We repent (with the Holy Spirit's help) because that's our (loving) response to please God who has brought His kingdom to us. Our only merit is we believe that God through the crucified and resurrected Christ has offered us His Spirit (and eternal salvation). We respond, but it's all God's work.
And I can understand Shirley's response, but also your feeling that we're all as bad as each other (just in different ways!). Maybe Shirley might look at home-church fellowship. Now, for those here who do this, that would create an interesting situation... (but God sorts all these things out - do I believe it, is the difficulty!)
# posted by geoff @ 5:43 pm
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